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jdv
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Picked up two SNS Reply with quote

Had a blast today. Very happy my wife is also into SNS. Smile

I gotta ask my friends here a few questions though. First off, what you think of my new SNS? Smile Hope i did good.

The black one is a Jennings 22. I was easily able to take this one down. Man it was dirty. Either previous owner didn't care or have the pation of SNS like I do, or just didn't know how to Take her down. Range report to follow. Hope to go tomorrow. The only concern i have is the firing pin as it seemed a little small on the firing pin end. I need to find a good one so i can compare with mine. If you got a known good one "firing pin" share a pic so i can compare with mine.

The Chrome or gold one. Not sure what it is. I cant find nothing on the internet. It's a .25 Cal Guardian. Says F.I.E. CORP Miami, FL on the other side. How do i take this one down to clean it?

Thanks guys! Keep up the great site.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful pieces, can't wait to hear how they do.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Picked up two SNS Reply with quote

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... It's a .25 Cal Guardian. Says F.I.E. CORP Miami, FL on the other side. How do i take this one down to clean it?


First, congrats, and we look forward to hearing more.

As for the Guardian, F.I.E. was an importer who sold primarily German and Italian pistols pre-68. As for how to break it down, I don't know, but my first suggestion would be to look here:

http://bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=535

That Valor looks suspiciously like the Guardian, and they may be the same under different labels. Even if it's not the same, I strongly suspect that the trick is rotating the safety something like what's shown in the link.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Thank You!!! Reply with quote

Farmkid, You Rock.

Wife says many many thanks. She sitting here cleaning it now!

Thank you again! How old you think the gun is? 60's, 70's? What you think the value would be? I know guns like this SNS have more value to you and me as we appreciate them. But what you think?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:13 am    Post subject: Firing Pin Reply with quote

My firing pin for the Jennings 22 is just like this one Gun Broker. Is this stubby firing pin correct? I figured the pin side that strikes the bullet was to short and stubby, but then i saw this on gun broker. Is this legit? If so then i should be good and will head to the range manana.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=146367813
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The firing pin is the correct one for the Jennings J22. It could be that you have a later model take-down button with a larger hole (the JA22 and some very late J22's had this) to accomodate the "cocked indicator." Your best bet would be to post a picture of the assembled pistol from the take-down button end with the pistol in the "cocked" position.

As for the FIE, it appears to be their version of the Italian Regarmi Galesi which was built until the 1970s. If so, the pistol is a post-1968 ban, which likely would put the build date sometime in the 1970s or early 1980s.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The striker pin for the rimfire is much shorter than for the centerfire cartridges. The J-22 has an ejector in the frame and doesn't require the pin to assist in case ejection like a .32 or .380.

Congrats on the Guardian! It has the Miami, FLA assembly stamp, so it is post '68.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...It has the Miami, FLA assembly stamp, so it is post '68.


Hey! You and 356! I thought these imports stopped in '68. Fill me in, Sensei!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: ammo Reply with quote

just one last que, before i head to the range. While the Guardian is an import. It fires the normal .25's right? nothing special? im probably asking a dumb question but want to make sure there aint no special .25 this baby likes. I got a box of remi's im gonna cycle through it this afternoon.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All .25 ACP are more or less the same. Any store bought .25 and you should be fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey! You and 356! I thought these imports stopped in '68. Fill me in, Sensei!


Had it been pre '68, it would have had the "Made in Italy" stamp on it. The manufacturer got around the ban by shipping in the parts and assembling them in Miami. Hence, it is no longer an evil import, and instead - MADE IN USA!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear from you again, John. It sounds like you picked up some nice pieces. Are you shooting the Lorcin much these days?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"FergusonTO35" Glad to hear from you again, John. It sounds like you picked up some nice pieces. Are you shooting the Lorcin much these days?


Hey hows it. Actually have only shot it once since but have sat here shinning it up many many times. Polishing it gives me just as much fun. Smile

Didn't make the range this last Sunday as expected due to another function we had to go taking to long. Missed 1/2 the Cowboys game too. What the heck.

So plan on taking them out this weekend, and now i got an itch to Shoot the Lorcin. Smile Thanks a lot! ha ha.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Pics Reply with quote

I meant to share with you all pictures of the Guardian when we cleaned it. Wife found it has a crack? What you think?

Able to fire? or Just a nice relic now?

www.jdworld.net/images/001.JPG

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that just on the side shown or on both sides? I would say from this view to continue using it but keep a close eye on it. (I am no expert, nor do I even play one on any forum) Wink
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